May 04, 2005
Watch Out for the Marquette Gold
Posted by Christine Hurt

After a year of deliberations, surveys, discussions, and general pondering, the trustees of Marquette University have decided to change the name of the Marquette sports teams to the "Marquette Gold" from the "Golden Eagles."  Last year at graduation, an alum had thrown the university into a tizzy by offering to give Marquette $1 million if the university would reverse a decision made 10 years ago and change the name back to the "Warriors."  (The name was used in conjunction with representations of Native Americans.)  Father Wild, the president of the University explains the decision to go in a new direction in this way:

While I recognize that some people will be disappointed that we are not reinstating the Warriors nickname, we cannot teach one principle about respect for human dignity in our classrooms and then fail to act by that same principle when making decisions. The Warriors nickname will always be part of our proud athletics tradition, and we will honor that tradition. But we live in a different era than when the Warriors nickname was selected in 1954. The perspective of time has shown us that our actions, intended or not, can offend others. We must not knowingly act in a way that others will believe, based on their experience, to be an attack on their dignity as fellow human beings.

I am glad that the Board did not give into pressure to change the mascot back to the Warrior.  I was in a campus-wide faculty meeting, and a lot of faculty expressed the idea that "Warrior" was a fine mascot, and it was all in fun and didn't mean any disrespect to Native Americans.  The gist was school pride!  I told them that I was from the South.  I was sure that whenever these midwesterners saw Southerners on television trying to defend the Confederate flag on grounds of pride and history and trying to separate the flag from slavery and discrimination that the thought the Southerners were missing the point.  I said that's how I felt watching them try to defend the warrior.

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Comments (18)

1. Posted by Gordon Smith on May 4, 2005 @ 19:34 | Permalink

I like colors as team names. Stanford Cardinal. University of Chicago Maroons. Nice. But this does defer the mascot question, doesn't it? Stanford has that goofy tree, and Chicago has a Nobel Laureate or something like that.


2. Posted by John Steele on May 4, 2005 @ 19:56 | Permalink

Marquette is now part of the answer to a great sports trivia question: Name the professional and college sports teams that don't send in "s" (e.g., Dallas Cowboys) or "n" (e.g., Syracuse Orangemen).


3. Posted by Scott Moss on May 4, 2005 @ 23:13 | Permalink

AHEM, there is nothing "goofy" about The Tree being the mascot for the Stanford Cardinal (no, "Cardinal" is not the bird in this context -- it's the color Cardinal (a deep red), like the Marquette Gold).

The Tree is by far the most creative mascot in academia, because (a) it's not just another dancing mammal (it's not even in the animal kingdom!) who looks like he should be paid $3/hr to mill around a theme park, and (b) every year it's a different tree -- a palm tree one year, a pine tree the next, or something more off-kilter like "disco tree" (which I confess didn't make any sense to me at the time).

In conclusion, don't dis the tree.


4. Posted by Scott Moss on May 5, 2005 @ 4:21 | Permalink

Some pictures of the Stanford Tree, in case Marquette needs any ideas:

http://gostanford.collegesports.com/genrel//021904aac.html?page=1


5. Posted by Jimbo Jones on May 5, 2005 @ 6:30 | Permalink

"Marquette is now part of the answer to a great sports trivia question: Name the professional and college sports teams that don't send in "s" (e.g., Dallas Cowboys) or "n" (e.g., Syracuse Orangemen)."

Actually, you could now add Syracuse to that list, because their athletic teams are now simply known as the "Orange."


6. Posted by PaulNoonan on May 5, 2005 @ 7:26 | Permalink

I'm annoyed at the lack of creativity here. There is a large segment of students, alumni, and just plain old members of the community, that have been wanting the Warrior name back, and while I'm somewhat sympathetic to concerns about offending Native Americans, a Warrior does not need to be Native American. (Side Note: While I find "Redskins" to be highly offensive, and the logos of the Cleveland Indians and Atlanta Braves to be offesnive, isn't being a warrior generally considered to be a good thing?)

Why didn't they simply change the logo to a knight, or a viking, or a spartan/trojan warrior, and keep the warrior name?

At least a Golden Eagle is a somewhat fierce mascot. The vague concept of "Gold" is not a good mascot. It inspires nothing.

The Maroons of Chicago are represented by a phoenix, incidentally (although admittedly a Nobel Laureate would be more appropriate), and Syracuse is now just the "Orange." They dropped the "men" from their name out of fear of offending sunburned people. Or something. I didn't really understand that name change, actually.

And the tree is goofy, by the way.


7. Posted by Scott Moss on May 5, 2005 @ 7:35 | Permalink

I guess I have to defer to the judgment as to "goofiness" of a 27 year-old lawyer who blogs about beer pong!


8. Posted by PaulNoonan on May 5, 2005 @ 8:13 | Permalink

Ah, I see Jimbo already covered the "Orange" thing. My mistake.

I do give Stanford credit for creativity. Who else would think of a tree? And it is representative of the area.

It makes more sense to me than the Crimson Tide and their elephant. I will definitely be interested to see what Marquette does for a mascot now.


9. Posted by John Steele on May 5, 2005 @ 9:31 | Permalink

I live in Palo Alto ("tall tree," essentially) and can understand the whole tree mascot thing for our local university. I appreciate the correction about the Orange of Syracuse.

The real problem, of course, is the Georgetown Hoya, which, as I understand it, is a Greek demonstrative pronoun from a tongue in cheek football cheer "hoya saxa," which is hilariously funny, of course, because it mixes Greek and Roman words (you had to be there, and be a classics student, back whenever they dreamed that one up).


10. Posted by Gordon Smith on May 5, 2005 @ 9:56 | Permalink

Scott, I think the tree is the perfect mascot. It inspires loyalty from Stanford people and derision from those outside. What more could you ask from a mascot than to create passionate conflict between the opposing teams' fans?

Paul, the Crimson Tide and the elephant ... I just googled and found this history: "So why does a red elephant prance up and down the Tide sidelines, revving up the Tuscaloosa faithful on game day? Well, no one can really say for sure. School historians verify that the red elephants have been associated with 'Bama football since 1930, however, theories on the tradition's origin have varied over the years." Is that only a mascot for football?

John, that reminds me of one of my favorite sports experiences. While I was in college, in Patrick Ewing's freshman year, the Hoyas played the NCAA regionals at BYU. I had nosebleed tickets for the game, so I decided to scout courtside for something more congenial. As luck would have it, I found an empty seat on the aisle ... next to the percussionist for the Georgetown band. He invited me to occupy the seat on the condition that I play an instrument (I chose the tamborine). It was great fun, and at one point I asked the natural question, "What's a Hoya?" To which the percussionist answered, "Exactly!" If this doesn't make sense, check this out.

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